tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110283631152387608.post8455375706727821735..comments2023-09-11T09:46:49.973-06:00Comments on The Brave Lass: Follow Up: Denver Seminary's Transformation (Updated)Kamillahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13983400897547054097noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110283631152387608.post-17156994557200744772012-12-30T09:52:52.945-07:002012-12-30T09:52:52.945-07:00Wow!
Only recently, have I been figuring out that ...Wow!<br />Only recently, have I been figuring out that Denver Seminary is turning into a bastion of liberalism...too bad.<br />I have a female friend who wants to attend there, as she has "heard good things about it." Hopefully she does not go, but that is still at least 5 years away, and in that amount of time it would not surprise me if the seminary gets even more liberal.Trenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05511008932132026210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110283631152387608.post-60766937209586521792012-04-01T04:48:41.253-06:002012-04-01T04:48:41.253-06:00As vicar of St. Athanasius Anglican Church, I appl...As vicar of St. Athanasius Anglican Church, I applaud your attracting to yourself Athanasius' motto: Contra Mundum! Kamilla Contra Mundum -- trips off the tongue nicely, no?<br /><br />Our parish motto is Contra Mundum Redivivus. In any respect that this is not a motto for us, it is a prayer for what we might become.<br /><br />On the Sunday which commences Holy Week, in which the motto of our Lord at that time was Mundus Contra Iesum, we revel in the knowledge that He overcame the world. Iesus Contra Mundum, Athanasius Contra Mundum, Christians Against the World -- this is the posture of evangelists and disciple makers. It doesn't make any of us candidates for popularity contests!Fr. Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05583524465037937508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110283631152387608.post-67793466199462823122011-04-24T23:03:36.345-06:002011-04-24T23:03:36.345-06:00Interesting! And not only is Swanson listed as a ...Interesting! And not only is Swanson listed as a chapter leader, but when I checked on chapter details at CBEs website, the address they list is Denver Seminary's address. I hadn't realized the connections were quite so tight.<br /><br />http://www.cbeinternational.org/?q=content/chapters#coloradoKamillahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13983400897547054097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110283631152387608.post-9313695216476878882011-04-24T18:09:06.072-06:002011-04-24T18:09:06.072-06:00"Along with Gordon Lewis, Doug Groothuis has ..."Along with Gordon Lewis, Doug Groothuis has consistently argued against 'New Age' pagan and occultic syncretism with Christianity - and yet Groothuis will not allow himself to see that the feminism he so ardently espouses is, at the very least, the camel's nose under the tent that allows this sort of thing to follow on."<br /><br />Indeed:<br /><br />http://theconstructivecurmudgeon.blogspot.com/2009/09/from-christians-for-biblical-equality.html<br /><br /><b>From Christians for Biblical Equality--Denver <br /><br />Dear Friends,<br /><br />Please join us for the next meeting of the Denver Chapter of Christians for Biblical Equality.<br /><br />We will meet Monday, September 28, 11:30-1pm in the Executive Board Room at Denver Seminary.<br /><br />A complimentary light lunch will be served at 11:30am. The program will take place from 12:00 to 1:00pm.<br /><br />Dr. Doug Groothuis, Professor of Philosophy at Denver Seminary, will speak on “Egalitarianism and the Witness of the Gospel.”<br /><br />We hope to see you there,<br /><br />Janet George<br />Mary Hanson<br />Vaun Swanson<br />Lindsey Widstrom</b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110283631152387608.post-35405000855566971242011-04-24T09:33:35.948-06:002011-04-24T09:33:35.948-06:00Anonymous,
While I allow unsigned comments, I res...Anonymous,<br /><br />While I allow unsigned comments, I reserve the right to delete them. This is my blog and the rules are mine. If you were a guest in my home and treated my kitchen sink as if it was the toilet, I'd probably ask you to leave. <br /><br />Here, however, you are welcome to stick around and post another comment. Just please do try to make it something of more substance than the "you're so mean and they're so nice" variety. I've heard it before and, frankly, it bores me. If your second comment is in a par with the first, it will be deleted as well.<br /><br />We're dealing with the fate of souls here. And what I defend is Christian Orthodoxy, not my personal opinion. Intentions don't amount to the value of a rat's right butt cheek if the glass you are offering is filled with draino when in all sincerity you believe it to be water.Kamillahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13983400897547054097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110283631152387608.post-75700177856432552082011-04-24T08:49:46.222-06:002011-04-24T08:49:46.222-06:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110283631152387608.post-79648190785403069542011-04-23T22:22:36.230-06:002011-04-23T22:22:36.230-06:00"Incidentally, I recently picked up the nickn..."Incidentally, I recently picked up the nickname, Athanasius!"<br /><br />A right honorable nickname, and it looks like you've earned it! A very blessed Easter to you, Kamilla.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110283631152387608.post-56262342687934081212011-04-23T17:47:03.645-06:002011-04-23T17:47:03.645-06:00Caedmon,
That is, in part, what makes this so fru...Caedmon,<br /><br />That is, in part, what makes this so frustrating. Along with Gordon Lewis, Doug Groothuis has consistently argued against "New Age" pagan and occultic syncretism with Christianity - and yet Groothuis will not allow himself to see that the feminism he so ardently espouses is, at the very least, the camel's nose under the tent that allows this sort of thing to follow on.<br /><br />Honestly, can anyone show me a group that has embraced this sort of pagan syncretism *without* having previously embraced feminism?<br /><br />Incidentally, I recently picked up the nickname, Athanasius!Kamillahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13983400897547054097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110283631152387608.post-20147824665885644952011-04-23T16:40:36.051-06:002011-04-23T16:40:36.051-06:00By the time I began my studies there in 1981, femi...By the time I began my studies there in 1981, femitarianism had a gained a pretty strong foothold, or so it appeared to me. Though I briefly dabbled with it in the the late 80s, other influences propelled me in a Catholic and traditionalist direction, and I quickly jettisoned the femitarian stuff. But I remember my impression of it all back in 1981 was that it was just so "trendy." There was an unreflective embrace of modernity in it that made me uncomfortable. I eventually began to see that it was all part and parcel of a quest to "engage the culture" which in reality was a <i>surrender</i> to modern culture; a conforming to the spirit of the world which the Gospel condemns. The idea of Christianity as being a salutary <i>countercultural</i> force was lost.<br /><br />Interestingly, it was also during the early 1980s that the New Age Movement was projected onto the world scene. Gordon Lewis and others at the seminary correctly assessed the dangers of this movement, and sometime around 1983 or so the seminary hosted a highly publicized conference on the New Age, which featured speakers from all over the country.<br /><br />There are those who argue that femintarianism is the "Arianism" of our day, meaning a heresy <i>par excellence</i>. I am increasigly inclined to think it's true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110283631152387608.post-59839266775865540132011-04-23T13:31:26.819-06:002011-04-23T13:31:26.819-06:00No surprises - but two things I don't think I&...No surprises - but two things I don't think I've mentioned which lend strength to my belief that DenSem leaders are not only aware of what their alumna is doing, but approve of it.<br /><br />First, not only is the wife of New Testament Professor Bill Klein one of the "Affiliate Guides" of Pomegranate Place but Professor Bradley Widstrom lists the Women's Center as a "like" on his Facebook page.<br /><br />Second, Vaun Swanson along with her co-authors of "Taking Flight: Reclaiming the Female half of God's Image" were invited to speak to the October 2010 meeting of the Denver Chapter of "Christians" for Biblical Equality. The Denver chapter is a frequent guest, hosting their meetings in seminary facilites and publicizing them around campus as well as numbering several faculty among its members.<br /><br />In the early days of religious feminism, the late Vernon Grounds brought many of the pioneers like Nancy Hardesty to the campus for a conference in 1978 giving the fledgling movement a crucial boost and veneer of credibility.Kamillahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13983400897547054097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110283631152387608.post-44590977539345013092011-04-23T12:19:29.151-06:002011-04-23T12:19:29.151-06:00Michanda Lindsey's bio aroused my interest as ...Michanda Lindsey's bio aroused my interest as well, especially the statement that she "serves as a priest for a local cathedral". Immediately I thought of St. John's Episcopal cathedral, as TEC ordains women and calls their clergycritters "priests", but I found nothing which indicates that she serves there. Like you, I found <i>nothing whatsoever</i> about her on the web, and I would therefore be <i>very</i> interested in ascertaining just which "local cathedral" it is that she serves as a "priest." This whole thing gets curiouser and curiouser.<br /><br />As for Denver Seminary's response -- or lack thereof - well at least we know the powers that be are aware of the controversy. I'm guessing they're also aware of the fact that Fr. Kendall Harmon picked up the story at his TitusOneNine blog:<br /><br />http://www.kendallharmon.net/t19/index.php/t19/article/36066/<br /><br />I'd say it would be in the institution's best interest to make a public statement on the matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com